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- Dec. 06, 1993: Interview:Henry Cisneros
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- TIME--The Weekly Newsmagazine--1993
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- <article>
- <source>Time Magazine</source>
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- SOCIETY, Page 31
- "They Said I'd Get Used To It"
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- <body>
- <p>By Henry Cisneros and Ann Blackman
- </p>
- <p> The Clinton Administration's point man on the homeless issue
- is Housing and Urban Development Secretary Henry Cisneros, who
- talked recently with correspondent Ann Blackman. Some excerpts:
- </p>
- <p> Q. TIME: Why did you decide to make homelessness your No.1 priority?
- </p>
- <p> A. Cisneros: The second week I was in Washington--it was last
- January--I went out on a cold, cold night with volunteers
- who take sandwiches and hot tea to the homeless. We found a
- lady who was eight months pregnant sleeping on the lawn of the
- Justice Department. And veterans of the Gulf War sleeping on
- a subway grate across from the National Archives. I talked to
- them, and I asked why they weren't in shelters, and they told
- me they were afraid. They talked of tuberculosis, of being robbed
- and beaten. People would say, "Man, I just need a job." But
- you could smell the alcohol on their breath. They were sad stories.
- </p>
- <p> I decided that you had to go beyond offering passive services
- like shelters and actually reach out. When you peel away the
- layers, you find that a family is broken up or they've had a
- nervous breakdown or they have a permanent personality disorder
- that keeps them from holding a job. It's never as simple as
- just housing. It's going to require some real skill in outreach.
- </p>
- <p> Q. TIME: What has been your biggest frustration?
- </p>
- <p> A. Cisneros: I came to this job because I believe that time
- is running out on the American way of life as we know it. I
- don't want to be overly pessimistic, but how long can we go
- on with random killings and a permanent underclass and the homeless?
- I'm 46 years old, and I remember when there were no homeless
- people. I remember when my parents took me to Mexico and I was
- appalled that there were beggars and people on mats in the street.
- This was a Third World phenomenon. Now officials in my department
- say to me, "Oh, you'll get used to it." I had one conversation
- with officials from several Cabinet departments, who, when I
- described the President's commitment to the homeless, said,
- "Oh, he comes from Arkansas; it's a small state. After he's
- here for a while, he'll get used to it."
- </p>
- <p> Q. TIME: You're a seasoned politician. Is this job what you
- expected?
- </p>
- <p> A. Cisneros: No, I thought that there would be more latitude.
- There is little discretion. Most everything is a formula program,
- and you simply administer the formula. I thought that there
- would be more of a direct line between our programs and what
- I was trying to do. It's frustrating.
- </p>
- <p> Q. TIME: How so?
- </p>
- <p> A. Cisneros: You can't move this massive machinery or relate
- it to massive machinery in other departments real easily. You
- move with concrete blocks tied to your arms and legs. I can't
- believe how gridlocked the system is, how it runs counter to
- common sense sometimes, how irrelevant it is to things that
- are happening out in the country.
- </p>
- <p> Q. TIME: Give me an example.
- </p>
- <p> A. Cisneros: We'll spend hours talking through a strategy of
- meeting all the objections to try and move our homeless initiative
- through the Office of Management and Budget and through congressional
- committees. We'll spend hours talking about how to please this
- or that person. Meanwhile it's dusk. And people are starting
- to bed down for the night--for one more night in the park
- outside the window. And we could go on for days talking and
- never get one step closer to the people who are using cardboard
- for beds in the nation's capital.
- </p>
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